Efforts RE (now against) PPSB 2024 UAGT Notification

( By Dean Wiley March 16, 2024 – updated March 17 12:15AM )

Too Long Didn’t Read version

The Private Protective Services Board (PPSB) is “Proposing a change” to the Administrative Code that will require (exactly) FIVE DAYS notice “to the Director” before a “Unarmed Guard Class.”

The “Public Comment Period” about this change ends on April 11, 2024. Any one that has “thoughts” about this one way or the other should:

Send an email to PPSB Director Paul Sherwin as follows:
TO: paul.sherwin@ncdps.gov
SUBJECT: Proposed Changes to 0707
BODY:
I am [for or against] the proposed change to “notification for in person classes”.
[any other information or reasoning]
Signed:
Your Name (real names only please)
[ If you are a ‘regulated by PPSB person’ and want to give them that information, add it to your ‘signature block’ ]

Original Long Version Below (with a few ‘updates’)

As soon as the NCDOJ’s CJS Division got “shut down” about “pre-delivery reports” of notification of when and where classes were to be held: The North Carolina Private Protective Services Board (PPSB) decides to take a stab at it (in the back, in the dark, illegally ‘masked’ in a lie about terminology clarification).

see: http://imfscorp.com/july-2023-efforts-against-nc-cch-proposed-changes/

Here’s the “Proposed Rule Change” to Administrative Code 14B NCAC 16 (Rule) .0707 Training Requirements for Unarmed Security Guards Notice of Text and Public Hearing 14B NCAC 16.0707 (retrieved 03.16.2024 7:45A unchanged from original Jan? upload).

The “Public Comment Period” ends April 11, 2024

The “notice” (above) says that a Public Hearing was to be held February 20, 2024 at 2:00PM. This, too, is “in error” in violation of NC General Statute [§] 150B. The hearing can not be held two months before the close of “Public Comment”.

Here is my latest and last written “comment and objection” to the PPSB acknowledged by Director Paul Sherwin as “received”: 2024_0307_PPSB_150B_Comment_0707_ProposedChanges
( Word docx format if you want to modify it and submit it yourself: 2024_0307_PPSB_150B_Comment_0707_ProposedChanges )

TO: All Trainers; All Licensees; All potential “PPSB Regulated” people, especially those that “may” one day want to become a Certified Trainer

Send in your comments – IN WRITING! – and/or send in a WRITTEN DEMAND to be heard “by voice” before or during the April PPSB “meetings” (law/rules committee or full). If you don’t: you won’t have “legs to stand on” (exhaust the administrative process) after they “sneak” this five day (exactly) notification requirement through for your 16-Hour Basic or “Unarmed” courses.

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( More ‘history’ and details from emails later )

Question: Why ‘fight’ this when you have always sent “Pre- and Post- Delivery (Notification) Reports” for your Armed Courses?

Answers:

  • Notification was required for ‘gun’ classes when I signed up to be a Firearms Trainer. I “went into it” fully knowing.
  • Notification has never been required for Basic or UnArmed classes/courses.
  • Notification for Basic classes/courses has never been discussed as an “unofficial” idea seeking public – including in-industry “private people and business effected in a burdensome way” – input.
  • The Board (members that are also ‘committee members’ of CJS Division) seeks to “intrude and interfere” in Private Commerce for (I truly believe) utterly immoral, illegal, unlawful, and/or “just stupid” reasons**.
    ** Licensee Board members “stealing” names of Trainers and other Licensees and/or Companies’ employees and other “industrial espionage”. Government intrusion and interference (tyranny) for “the sake of it; because we can.” Stupid = (as stated in my Comment and Objection letter above) The inclusion of “in-person” class notification may be a “typo.”
  • The Board is not now – and never will be – “invited or allowed” to “audit” my/our classes because my/our classes adhere to the letters of the law and code and ‘use’ their materials – with much more time spent pointing out “flaws” (dangerous mis-informations/mistakes, nonsense, typos, impractical/unrealistic “guidance”, misstatements of law [see power of arrest, assistance to LE, stricken 1989]) that all of the Board (many years, members and staff) don’t seem to notice or care about. My/our classes are delivered from a “We have to know this stuff because the Board will ‘quiz’ us on it” but “We have to be able to use the time to also ‘teach’ some real-world practical PRIVATE business realities” not from a “Good enough for government work as a government ‘instructor'” mentality.
  • The Board “may not” intrude upon “private business” in some misguided idea of “surprise audits”. (See NCCCH “nipped in the bud” above) I “pay for” the seats in my classes (room rent, sometimes per seat/person), and the Government CAN NOT “just show up” and cost me/us extra money. Even if they “could” – We would require them to PAY for their ‘seat’ in the class and sign a “personal” (not government agency” GUARANTEE that they won’t use the “real, correct information” received in our class to “fix” the above “errors” in their materials and/or “improve their position or pay or status at the PPSB as an employee without crediting and paying appropriate contract fees and royalties.” We already do – and always have – PAID (for) THEM to make this mess. They are not going to “steal” in the name of “audit” a way to “look less incompetent and apathetic.”

( Again, more later, I have to go to a Train-The-Trainer ‘meeting’ for UAGTs. 8:19AM 3.16.2024 )

July 2023 Efforts AGAINST NC CCH Proposed Changes

From: Dean Wiley, President/CEO, “Lead Trainer/Instructor”
July 6, 2023

( 09/02/23 Scroll down a lot for the ‘new-new’ way to submit a Request For Legislative Review or Delayed Effective Date )

If ‘we’ (the people) do not fight** the “proposed changes” to N.C.’s Concealed Carry Handgun (CCH) Laws* (*Rules, “The Administrative Code, no proposed edit or amendment to “The Law” is at issue) then ‘we’ (the people) are going to be without Concealed Carry instruction. If the “proposed changes” go through ‘we’ (IMFs Corp and ‘our’ affiliated/befriended CCH instructors) estimate that the price per person of a CCH Class will be somewhere around USD$250.00 and classes will be given only on the ‘absolute pre-determined (called pre-delivery) schedule’ proposed by “the government.”

The “stated purpose” of these “proposed changes”: stop fraud. “There may have been instances of [CCH] Instructors ‘selling certificates’.”

The “unstated but ‘known’ by all of us real purpose”: Kill CCH in NC. Make no one ‘want to’ give the classes except those that will charge so much for it that no one will pay to take a class. ( The irony here is that the ‘certificate sellers’ will just ‘mill/sell’ more certificates because no one can ‘get a class’. )

The ‘alt-far-right’ secret plot/plan/57-dimention-chess theory: This will ‘make sure’ that when (my opinion: Useless) Lt. Governor Mark Robinson “becomes Governor in 2024 we’ll get Constitutional (Concealed) Carry for sure!”

Round One: FIGHT!**

Request Legislative Review. As of the time of the writing of this web-log page, there are approximately five “Request for Legislative Review” letters “in the mail.”

Here is a Microsoft Word document that has the correct “format” for the “Rules” line. Please, download it, edit it to have your name and address, and mail it to the address on the form:
2023-07-04-CCH-Template-for-Requesting-Legislative-Review

If TEN (10) are received by the N.C. Rules Review Commission “timely” (I am not sure what that means) the “effective start” will be removed/delayed until …? ( until ‘review’ is complete ) If ten are not received… nothing. We (the people) will have missed the “speak now or forever hold your peace” part.

Update: 3:07PM we have ‘confirmed’ mailing of at least the ten required. We are hoping that many more – perhaps hundreds – go in.

Round One-Point-Zero-One: FIGHT!**

If you want ‘to be heard’ you MUST submit “comment” to Michelle Schilling, Deputy Director, NCDOJ Criminal Justice Standards Division (Training and Research Section): mschilling@ncdoj.gov

Caution/Reminder: Keep your ‘comment’ completely professional. Hashtag-2A garbage, ranting and name calling will only result in: “we lose.”

Here’s mine: 2023_0702_RE_Proposed_Changes_NCCCH_Instructors_FINAL_NOPS (word) and 2023_0702_RE_Proposed_Changes_NCCCH_Instructors_FINAL_NOPS (pdf)

( I probably ‘should not’ have called “THEM/THEY” – all of NC-dot-gov “Tyrants”. But, I did. Because I truly and totally believe that to be true. I call it “The Tyranny of Stupidity.” That is “my experience.” )

Update: M. Schilling replied to my email on 07/05/23: Thank you, Mr. Wiley. I will ensure the Commissioners of the Planning & Standards Committee receive your comments.

Harvey E. Morse has made Great Efforts and allowed me/us to ‘preview’ his ‘comment’ document. When he ‘finalizes it’ and ‘authorizes it’ we will publish his here as well.

Update (a few hours later): I got Harvey’s permission to ‘publish’ the draft. Here it is in PDF format: Harvey Morse July 2023 Dear Fellow CCH Instructors DRAFT

( If you would like your ‘comment’ or name/count added to the “Sent in the Request for Legislative Review” please email to: info@imfscorp.com )

Round Two: FIGHT!! **

Attend “the meeting” on August 9, 2023.
10:00am at the
WAKE TECHNICAL COMMUNITY COLLEGE
PUBLIC SAFETY TRAINING CENTER
321 CHAPANOKE RD
RALEIGH

This meeting is for ‘comments and discussion’ about ALL of the “proposed changes” to ALL of the Administrative Codes. CCH (Instruction) is a ‘small portion’ of the proposed changes submitted for ‘hearing at the August 9 meeting’ this year. Be prepared: “politician(s)” are already advising that there will be “too many people to allow them to speak. They will ‘close’ the entire meeting or the ‘comment’ period.”

I am not 100% sure, but “I think” your only option for the “just in case, didn’t get a chance to be heard August 9th” problem is: to have sent the “comment” to Schilling (above) before the meeting.

Wear a “NO CCH CHANGES!” shirt or hold up a sign (small, like a ‘letter sized paper (8.5×11″)’) that says the same thing.

Round Two-Point-Five: FIGHT!! **

Contact your “state legislature(s)” and “politicians” including (That Useless, IMHO) Lt. Governor of “ours.” Send them your “COMMENT” document, flood their email boxes, call their offices. One “politician/elected” has already said that they will “try to have the Legislature do what is called ‘Technical Review’.” I am not sure what that means or is, but: Ask/Tell “your” reps about it.

Round Three: Court – There is no Round Three

If “all else fails” then: Court. I/we won’t be involved in that. I/we will accept that “our work here is finished” and the approximately 2,200 ‘students/participants’ we have had in our classes (of all kinds) is enough. “Manifest Destiny” or something like that.

If someone has not “made reasonable efforts” to “follow/exhaust the Administrative process” then that someone “has no ‘standing’ or ’cause'” in (or “before the”) court(s).

For “posterity”

On June 23, 2023 at 4:55PM (EDT) I received the following email and attachments from Robert N. “Bob” Overton (CCH Program Manager/Administrator)

Subject: Upcoming CCH Program changes and Acadis Update

All:

Please see attached documents.

Thanks,

Bob Overton

Attachments:

Word Doc(x): CCH Code Changes and Acadis Update 6-23-23
PDF ‘save’ of above: CCH Code Changes and Acadis Update 6-23-23

CCH-2 Carry Concealed Handgun Course Pre-Delivery Form (06-2023)

CCH-3 Carry Concealed Handgun Course Post-Delivery Form (06-2023)

CCH-4 Carry Concealed Handgun Course Student Roster (06-2023)

*** July 17, 2023 Letter ***

I (Dean Wiley) sent a link or a PDF of copy of (below) to all of the people named in it.

2023_0717_NC_CCH_2Senators_CCEveryone

***** Sept. 2, 2023 Update *****

September 2, 2023 “update” – Further “exhausting of the Administrative Process/Remedy”

Since this started (a little over 2 months ago “officially”) “they” have changed the instructions and removed the “template” from the “Rules Review Request Page”. Now: we MUST HAVE AT LEAST 10 of ‘the following’ types of “complete letters” sent in before October 1 (or 5 or 10 they are not “clear and unambiguous” here/there either). Now instead of Postal you can email as well to: mailto:oah.rules@oah.nc.gov

Here is a MS-Word document that you can download/save/edit and email yourself: 2023_0902_NCCCH_RulesReviewCommission_NoNotes

Here is what I sent (PDF): 2023_0902_NCCCH_RulesReviewCommission

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I did not ask for – nor mention – “Constitutional Carry” because it is “rumored” that “all of the political will/currency for that has been spent or never existed in the first place.” (Or, that “they” are saving that to put a “W” in the Dash-R column “after Robinson becomes governor!”)

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** No! I/We do not mean revolt, ‘unrest’, harassment of specific individuals in the ’employ of the government’, or any other form of violence, protest(eth) too much, and/or stupidity. We mean ‘exhaust the Administrative Process’ so that if ‘we’ end up going to court, we can be heard. The first part of a ‘legal (court) action’ against a/the government is: You must have exhausted (or made ‘reasonable efforts’ in) “the Administrative Process.” And: “I do NOT apologize Mark Robinson.” Show me something you’ve done “Useful” while “on my dime” and I’ll apologize.

“Busy Idiocy” is a term coined in a book about the lunatic ‘populace’ and their ‘local/state/colony’ (some times elected) Government in (Jolly Olde) England circa First-Third of the 1800s. Thaumaturgia (Or) Elucidations of the Marvellous by Oxonian, 1835.