NC – IMFs Corporation

Sept 16 2023 PPS Armed Recertification

Saturday, September 16, 2023 we will be conducting a North Carolina Private Protective Services Firearms Re-Certification Class/Course. This is a FOUR classroom hours re-certification and range qualification (day and night) course for handguns (no shotgun or rifle training).

The starting time is: Eleven (11:00) A.M. (1100 hrs) at the “classroom”. FOUR (4) hours of classroom “law updates, review and testing/quizzing” are REQUIRED for “Armed Re-Certification (renewal).” If you are a “noon-ish-time eater” then bring your lunch or “plans” to get something “quick” that you can eat in the classroom so that we “stay on the clock as much as possible.”

The “classroom” is at:
Consolidated Underwriters (CUI)
206 South Wilson Avenue
Dunn, NC 28334
https://goo.gl/maps/WWRqNUuGXqLorKZx6?coh=178571&entry=tt
( google incorrectly shows the Car Rental business 2 doors away – CUI is 2 doors “down/south” from the Car Rental business/lot )
Park in the BACK, please.

DO NOT bring live ammunition into the “classroom”. DO NOT handle a firearm unless under the “watch” of – and at the direct instruction of – a Trainer.

Bring your CLEARED handgun(s) into the classroom – NO AMMUNITION – at the beginning to function check them and record the make, model and serial numbers. You only need your handgun(s) and pen/paper or other note-keeping tools in the classroom.

DO NOT bring live ammunition into the “classroom”.

What you will need at the range:

at least THREE HUNDRED (300) rounds of ammunition (duty or ballistic equivalent) “correct” for EACH of the handguns you will qualify on. 300 “only” gives you enough for 3 day and 3 night attempts
your handgun(s)
at least TWO (2) magazines for each handgun that you will qualify with
a sturdy or duty belt
holster(s) “correct” for your handgun(s)
magazine carrier(s)/pouch(es)
a hand-held flashlight (**gun mounted lights are allowed by the PPSB for re-certification. If used they must ONLY be used at the 5 yard line at night.)
a “billed cap”
eye and hearing protection (we have plenty if you don’t own it)
“appropriate attire” (no shorts, no V-neck or open-neck shirts, duty/work shoes/boots). There is a ‘very early’ prediction of ‘chance of rain’. If your “company” requires you to qualify in uniform then wear the uniform.

The cost per participant/student is: $170.00 per person ($150 + 20 range fee)

( * ) Range set-up and clean-up including “picking up at least as much brass/cases as we shoot” is required. If you don’t want to clean-up including picking up brass bring $20.00 more ($40 total) for “range fee” to pay someone else to do it for you. If you don’t want to pay more or set-up and clean-up: Get your PPSB certification some where else.

DO NOT bring live ammunition into the classroom. -= NO BULLETS!! =-

Range training and Qualification is to be at H2O Fowl Farms. This is an outdoor range. Dress appropriately and bring a lot of water. If there are not too many “interruptions or breaks (for getting food)” we will leave the “classroom” and head to the range at – or shortly after – 3:00PM (1500 hours).

H2O’s website: http://h2ofowlfarmsnc.com/

“Time permitting” we usually go into Benson and eat between day and night qualifications.

July 2023 Efforts AGAINST NC CCH Proposed Changes

From: Dean Wiley, President/CEO, “Lead Trainer/Instructor”
July 6, 2023

( 09/02/23 Scroll down a lot for the ‘new-new’ way to submit a Request For Legislative Review or Delayed Effective Date )

If ‘we’ (the people) do not fight** the “proposed changes” to N.C.’s Concealed Carry Handgun (CCH) Laws* (*Rules, “The Administrative Code, no proposed edit or amendment to “The Law” is at issue) then ‘we’ (the people) are going to be without Concealed Carry instruction. If the “proposed changes” go through ‘we’ (IMFs Corp and ‘our’ affiliated/befriended CCH instructors) estimate that the price per person of a CCH Class will be somewhere around USD$250.00 and classes will be given only on the ‘absolute pre-determined (called pre-delivery) schedule’ proposed by “the government.”

The “stated purpose” of these “proposed changes”: stop fraud. “There may have been instances of [CCH] Instructors ‘selling certificates’.”

The “unstated but ‘known’ by all of us real purpose”: Kill CCH in NC. Make no one ‘want to’ give the classes except those that will charge so much for it that no one will pay to take a class. ( The irony here is that the ‘certificate sellers’ will just ‘mill/sell’ more certificates because no one can ‘get a class’. )

The ‘alt-far-right’ secret plot/plan/57-dimention-chess theory: This will ‘make sure’ that when (my opinion: Useless) Lt. Governor Mark Robinson “becomes Governor in 2024 we’ll get Constitutional (Concealed) Carry for sure!”

Round One: FIGHT!**

Request Legislative Review. As of the time of the writing of this web-log page, there are approximately five “Request for Legislative Review” letters “in the mail.”

Here is a Microsoft Word document that has the correct “format” for the “Rules” line. Please, download it, edit it to have your name and address, and mail it to the address on the form:
2023-07-04-CCH-Template-for-Requesting-Legislative-Review

If TEN (10) are received by the N.C. Rules Review Commission “timely” (I am not sure what that means) the “effective start” will be removed/delayed until …? ( until ‘review’ is complete ) If ten are not received… nothing. We (the people) will have missed the “speak now or forever hold your peace” part.

Update: 3:07PM we have ‘confirmed’ mailing of at least the ten required. We are hoping that many more – perhaps hundreds – go in.

Round One-Point-Zero-One: FIGHT!**

If you want ‘to be heard’ you MUST submit “comment” to Michelle Schilling, Deputy Director, NCDOJ Criminal Justice Standards Division (Training and Research Section): mschilling@ncdoj.gov

Caution/Reminder: Keep your ‘comment’ completely professional. Hashtag-2A garbage, ranting and name calling will only result in: “we lose.”

Here’s mine: 2023_0702_RE_Proposed_Changes_NCCCH_Instructors_FINAL_NOPS (word) and 2023_0702_RE_Proposed_Changes_NCCCH_Instructors_FINAL_NOPS (pdf)

( I probably ‘should not’ have called “THEM/THEY” – all of NC-dot-gov “Tyrants”. But, I did. Because I truly and totally believe that to be true. I call it “The Tyranny of Stupidity.” That is “my experience.” )

Update: M. Schilling replied to my email on 07/05/23: Thank you, Mr. Wiley. I will ensure the Commissioners of the Planning & Standards Committee receive your comments.

Harvey E. Morse has made Great Efforts and allowed me/us to ‘preview’ his ‘comment’ document. When he ‘finalizes it’ and ‘authorizes it’ we will publish his here as well.

Update (a few hours later): I got Harvey’s permission to ‘publish’ the draft. Here it is in PDF format: Harvey Morse July 2023 Dear Fellow CCH Instructors DRAFT

( If you would like your ‘comment’ or name/count added to the “Sent in the Request for Legislative Review” please email to: info@imfscorp.com )

Round Two: FIGHT!! **

Attend “the meeting” on August 9, 2023.
10:00am at the
WAKE TECHNICAL COMMUNITY COLLEGE
PUBLIC SAFETY TRAINING CENTER
321 CHAPANOKE RD
RALEIGH

This meeting is for ‘comments and discussion’ about ALL of the “proposed changes” to ALL of the Administrative Codes. CCH (Instruction) is a ‘small portion’ of the proposed changes submitted for ‘hearing at the August 9 meeting’ this year. Be prepared: “politician(s)” are already advising that there will be “too many people to allow them to speak. They will ‘close’ the entire meeting or the ‘comment’ period.”

I am not 100% sure, but “I think” your only option for the “just in case, didn’t get a chance to be heard August 9th” problem is: to have sent the “comment” to Schilling (above) before the meeting.

Wear a “NO CCH CHANGES!” shirt or hold up a sign (small, like a ‘letter sized paper (8.5×11″)’) that says the same thing.

Round Two-Point-Five: FIGHT!! **

Contact your “state legislature(s)” and “politicians” including (That Useless, IMHO) Lt. Governor of “ours.” Send them your “COMMENT” document, flood their email boxes, call their offices. One “politician/elected” has already said that they will “try to have the Legislature do what is called ‘Technical Review’.” I am not sure what that means or is, but: Ask/Tell “your” reps about it.

Round Three: Court – There is no Round Three

If “all else fails” then: Court. I/we won’t be involved in that. I/we will accept that “our work here is finished” and the approximately 2,200 ‘students/participants’ we have had in our classes (of all kinds) is enough. “Manifest Destiny” or something like that.

If someone has not “made reasonable efforts” to “follow/exhaust the Administrative process” then that someone “has no ‘standing’ or ’cause'” in (or “before the”) court(s).

For “posterity”

On June 23, 2023 at 4:55PM (EDT) I received the following email and attachments from Robert N. “Bob” Overton (CCH Program Manager/Administrator)

Subject: Upcoming CCH Program changes and Acadis Update

All:

Please see attached documents.

Thanks,

Bob Overton

Attachments:

Word Doc(x): CCH Code Changes and Acadis Update 6-23-23
PDF ‘save’ of above: CCH Code Changes and Acadis Update 6-23-23

CCH-2 Carry Concealed Handgun Course Pre-Delivery Form (06-2023)

CCH-3 Carry Concealed Handgun Course Post-Delivery Form (06-2023)

CCH-4 Carry Concealed Handgun Course Student Roster (06-2023)

*** July 17, 2023 Letter ***

I (Dean Wiley) sent a link or a PDF of copy of (below) to all of the people named in it.

2023_0717_NC_CCH_2Senators_CCEveryone

***** Sept. 2, 2023 Update *****

September 2, 2023 “update” – Further “exhausting of the Administrative Process/Remedy”

Since this started (a little over 2 months ago “officially”) “they” have changed the instructions and removed the “template” from the “Rules Review Request Page”. Now: we MUST HAVE AT LEAST 10 of ‘the following’ types of “complete letters” sent in before October 1 (or 5 or 10 they are not “clear and unambiguous” here/there either). Now instead of Postal you can email as well to: mailto:oah.rules@oah.nc.gov

Here is a MS-Word document that you can download/save/edit and email yourself: 2023_0902_NCCCH_RulesReviewCommission_NoNotes

Here is what I sent (PDF): 2023_0902_NCCCH_RulesReviewCommission

*****

I did not ask for – nor mention – “Constitutional Carry” because it is “rumored” that “all of the political will/currency for that has been spent or never existed in the first place.” (Or, that “they” are saving that to put a “W” in the Dash-R column “after Robinson becomes governor!”)

*****

** No! I/We do not mean revolt, ‘unrest’, harassment of specific individuals in the ’employ of the government’, or any other form of violence, protest(eth) too much, and/or stupidity. We mean ‘exhaust the Administrative Process’ so that if ‘we’ end up going to court, we can be heard. The first part of a ‘legal (court) action’ against a/the government is: You must have exhausted (or made ‘reasonable efforts’ in) “the Administrative Process.” And: “I do NOT apologize Mark Robinson.” Show me something you’ve done “Useful” while “on my dime” and I’ll apologize.

“Busy Idiocy” is a term coined in a book about the lunatic ‘populace’ and their ‘local/state/colony’ (some times elected) Government in (Jolly Olde) England circa First-Third of the 1800s. Thaumaturgia (Or) Elucidations of the Marvellous by Oxonian, 1835.

Sat June 5 2021 NC CCH Class

On Saturday, June 5, 2020 we will be holding a North Carolina Concealed Carry Handgun (CCH) class. One-Day CCH classes start at 8:00a.m. and finish (usually) by 6:00-6:30p.m. The price for this class: $100.00 if you use your gun and ammunition, $110.00 if you use ours.

This course is a Concealed Carry North Carolina Firearms Group effort (in cooperation with TradeHawker LLC, Fundamental Safety LLC, and Gunner’s Choice Outfitters) and was voted “Best of Harnett County – Concealed Carry Handgun Class” in 2019 and 2020.

This course is being conducted under the “Modified Stay At Home Orders” as well as “Easing Statewide Restrictions Order 209” from the NC government for “Re-Opening and Operating Businesses during the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic.” Face coverings (masks) will be available and RECOMMENDED. Limited seating. All contact surfaces regularly ‘disinfected/sanitized’.

Join the Concealed Carry North Carolina Firearms Group on Facebook:
https://www.facebook.com/FundamentalSafety

This class is being hosted by:
Consolidated Underwriters
206 South Wilson Avenue
Dunn, NC 28334
Google Maps (Short URL): http://goo.gl/maps/QR6KG
DO NOT BRING ANY AMMUNITION INTO THE CLASSROOM.
Please park in the back.

Join the facebook event: https://fb.me/e/1MnmNjcgW

Sign up at Gunner’s Choice Outfitters: 910-892-1699
106 Carolina Drive, Dunn, NC 28334
https://www.gunsindunn.com/
https://www.facebook.com/Gunners-Choice-Outfitters-269051406372/

Here is a detailed flyer (PDF format): 2021_0605_NCCCH_Flyer

April 11-13 2021 NC PPSB Armed Full and Re-Certification Course

Sunday, April 11, 2021 through Tuesday, April 13, 2021 we will be conducting a North Carolina Private Protective Services Firearms Certification Class/Course. This is a TWENTY classroom hours certification course for handguns (no shotgun or rifle training). Day 3 – Monday – includes recertification for handguns.

The starting time for all three days (Sunday-Tuesday) is: Eleven (11:00) A.M. and all days start at the classroom. Sunday and Monday “classroom” will end at approximately Seven (7:00) P.M. – Seven-Thirty (7:30) P.M. depending on participants “meal break” time.

Complete course schedule and requirements here (Adobe PDF document): 2021_0411_IMFs_PPS_Armed_3DayCourseOutlineRequirements

All full-course participants MUST have ALL of their equipment (guns, holsters, magazines, flashlights, belts) ready to train with at 11AM on Sunday April 11. We begin “practical” training IMMEDIATELY. DO NOT bring live ammunition into the “classroom”.

The cost per participant/student is starting at the “3-4 participants” discount rate because of self-paying guards and company/self-paying guards from Black Box Security ( https://blackboxsecurity.us/ ) and Lolair Protection Agency ( http://www.lolairprotectionagency.com/ ):
– ~~$220.00~~ $195 (includes $20 range fee to H2O Fowl Farms) for full certification
– ~~$120.00~~ $120 (includes $20 range fee to H2O Fowl Farms) for recertification
See our NCPPS[B] page.

( * ) Range set-up and clean-up including “at least as much brass/cases as we shoot” is required. If you don’t want to clean-up including picking up brass bring $20.00 more for “range fee” to pay someone else to do it for you. If you don’t want to pay more or set-up and clean-up: Get your PPSB certification some where else.

Contact IMFs Corp to sign up or for more information:
(910) 892 – 1616
(Do not contact H2O Fowl Farms, IMFs is the “coordinator” for this course.)

The classroom portion is being held at Consolidated Underwriters at their 206 South Wilson Avenue, Dunn, NC, 28334 location. Please park in the rear of the building. http://goo.gl/maps/QR6KG

DO NOT bring live ammunition into the classroom. -= NO BULLETS!! =-

Range training and Qualification is to be at H2O Fowl Farms. This is an outdoor range. Dress appropriately and bring a lot of water.

H2O’s website: http://h2ofowlfarmsnc.com/

April 8-9 2021 NC PPSB Basic 16 Hours

Thursday, April 8, through Friday, April 9, 2021 we will be holding a 16 Hour Basic (unarmed) North Carolina Private Protective Services (Board, PPSB) Certification Class/Course. Both days we will begin at 11:00am and end at approximately 7:30pm. This is the 16 hours of training required by the PPSB to get registered as an unarmed (or basic) security officer and/or pre-requisite to attending the “armed” 20 hour course.

Participants must bring their own note keeping supplies.

This course is being held at Consolidated Underwriters at their 206 South Wilson Avenue, Dunn, NC, 28334 location. Please park in the rear of the building. http://goo.gl/maps/QR6KG

Call (910) 892 – 1616 (land-line, no texts) and leave a message if you would like to get guards into this class.

Sat Apr 3 2021 NC Concealed Carry Handgun Course

On Saturday, April 3, 2020 we will be holding a North Carolina Concealed Carry Handgun (CCH) class. One-Day CCH classes start at 8:00a.m. and finish (usually) by 6:00-6:30p.m. The price for this class: $100.00 if you use your gun and ammunition, $110.00 if you use ours.

This course is being conducted under the “Modified Stay At Home Orders” as well as “Easing Restrictions Order 195” from the NC government for “Re-Opening and Operating Businesses during the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic.” Face coverings (masks) will be available and REQUIRED. Limited seating. All contact surfaces regularly ‘disinfected/sanitized’.

Join the Concealed Carry North Carolina Firearms Group on Facebook:
https://www.facebook.com/FundamentalSafety

Join the facebook event: https://www.facebook.com/events/1590451164498265

Sign up at Gunner’s Choice Outfitters: 910-892-1699
106 Carolina Drive, Dunn, NC 28334
https://www.gunsindunn.com/
https://www.facebook.com/Gunners-Choice-Outfitters-269051406372/

Here is a detailed flyer (PDF format): 2021_0403_NCCCH_Flyer

March 27-29 2021 NC PPSB Armed Full and Re-certification Course

Saturday, March 27, 2021 through Monday, March 29, 2021 we will be conducting a North Carolina Private Protective Services Firearms Certification Class/Course. This is a TWENTY classroom hours certification course for handguns (no shotgun training). Day 3 – Monday – includes recertification for handguns.

This course was put together for 2nd and 3rd shift ‘basic’ or ‘un-armed’ certified and registered guards. The starting time for Saturday and Sunday is: Twelve (12:00) P.M. The classroom starting time for Monday is: Eleven (11:00) A.M.

Complete course schedule and requirements here (Adobe PDF document): 2021_0327_IMFs_PPS_Armed_3DayCourseOutlineRequirements

All full-course participants MUST have ALL of their equipment (guns, holsters, magazines, flashlights, belts) ready to train with at 12PM on Saturday March 27. We begin “practical” training IMMEDIATELY. DO NOT bring live ammunition into the “classroom”.

The cost per participant/student is starting at the “5 or more participants” discount rate because of self-paying guards from St. Moritz and company/self-paying guards from Black Box Security ( https://blackboxsecurity.us/ ) and Lolair Protection Agency ( http://www.lolairprotectionagency.com/ ):
– ~~$220.00~~ $170 (includes $20 range fee to H2O Fowl Farms) for full certification
– ~~$120.00~~ $100 (includes $20 range fee to H2O Fowl Farms) for recertification
See our NCPPS[B] page.

Contact IMFs Corp to sign up or for more information:
(910) 892 – 1616
(Do not contact H2O Fowl Farms, IMFs is the “coordinator” for this course.)

The classroom portion is being held at Consolidated Underwriters at their 206 South Wilson Avenue, Dunn, NC, 28334 location. Please park in the rear of the building. http://goo.gl/maps/QR6KG

DO NOT bring live ammunition into the classroom. -= NO BULLETS!! =-

Range training and Qualification is to be at H2O Fowl Farms. This is an outdoor range. Dress appropriately and bring a lot of water.

H2O’s website: http://h2ofowlfarmsnc.com/

March 25-26 2021 NC PPSB Basic 16 Hours

Thursday, March 25, through Friday, March 26, 2021 we will be holding a 16 Hour Basic (unarmed) North Carolina Private Protective Services (Board, PPSB) Certification Class/Course. Both days we will begin at 12:00pm and end at approximately 8:30pm. This is the 16 hours of training required by the PPSB to get registered as an unarmed (or basic) security officer.

This is a ‘private, invite only’ class arranged between IMFs and Black Box Security ( https://blackboxsecurity.us/ ) and some self-paying/self-certifying guards.

Participants must bring their own note keeping supplies.

This course is being held at Consolidated Underwriters at their 206 South Wilson Avenue, Dunn, NC, 28334 location. Please park in the rear of the building. http://goo.gl/maps/QR6KG

Sat Feb 20 2021 NC Concealed Carry Handgun Course

On Saturday, February 20, 2021 we will be holding a North Carolina Concealed Carry Handgun (CCH) class. One-Day CCH classes start at 8:00a.m. and finish (usually) by 6:00-6:30p.m. The price for this class: $100.00 if you use your gun and ammunition, $110.00 if you use ours.

This course is being conducted under the “Modified Stay At Home Order(s)” by, and the most recent orders from, the NC government for “Operating Businesses during the Coronavirus Pandemic.” Face coverings (masks) will be available and REQUIRED. Limited seating: 15 participants maximum. All contact surfaces regularly ‘disinfected/sanitized’.

Join the Concealed Carry North Carolina Firearms Group on Facebook:
https://www.facebook.com/FundamentalSafety

Join the facebook event: https://www.facebook.com/events/1040814686398552/

Sign up at Gunner’s Choice Outfitters: 910-892-1699
106 Carolina Drive, Dunn, NC 28334
https://www.gunsindunn.com/
https://www.facebook.com/Gunners-Choice-Outfitters-269051406372/

Here is a detailed flyer (PDF format): 2021_0220_NCCCH_Flyer

Jan 18-22 2021 Full Week of NC PPSB Training

Monday, January 18, through Friday, January 22, 2021 (with Sat Jan 23 as a ‘backup’ range day) we will be holding a full week of North Carolina Private Protective Services (Board, PPSB) Certification Classes/Courses. Every day except Friday we will begin at 10:00am and end at approximately 7:00pm. Friday’s Schedule is below.

Pricing can be found here: http://imfscorp.com/nc-private-protective-services/

St. Moritz Security Services is sending enough guards through that the “Five or More” rates are going to be extended to all who attend any of the training.

Monday-Tuesday January 18-19 “Basic”

Monday and Tuesday will be the “Security Officer in North Carolina” course. This is the 16 hours of training required by the PPSB to get registered as an unarmed (or basic) security officer. We will start at 10:00am both days. The address and link for the location of the classroom is below.

Participants must bring their own note keeping supplies.

Wednesday-Friday January 20-22 “Armed”

Wednesday through Friday we will be conducting the TWENTY classroom hours certification course for handguns ONLY. Friday will be an Armed Re-Certification Course (4 classroom hours and range qualification) as well as the completion of the ‘Full’ course.

Wednesday and Thursday we will start at 10:00am and finish at approximately 7:00pm. Participants MUST have all of their equipment on Wednesday morning. We start “practical” training FIRST. Book, theory, nomenclature and law are all done after or during “practical” training.

On Friday, January 22, all armed participants (full and re-certification) should arrive at the classroom at 10:00am. After 4 hours (minimum) of ‘classroom’ (The Legal Module) we will go to the range for Day and Night qualification attempts. Complete requirements for armed training are here: 2021_0120_IMFs_PPS_Armed_3DayCourseOutlineRequirements

Due to the ammunition shortages (Coronavirus and Riots) the PPSB has authorized the use of the 30-Round Day and Night Courses of Fire (COF). It is up to your employer if they will accept those.

St. Moritz employees: 30-round COF will be allowed for Re-Certification ONLY. New certifications are required to shoot the “standard” 50-Round COF.

The cost per participant/student listed at our PPSB page does NOT include:
– $20 range fee to H2O Fowl Farms
* The more that attend, the lower the individual cost. See our NCPPS[B] page.

Contact IMFs Corp to sign up or for more information:
(910) 892 – 1616
(Do not contact H2O Fowl Farms, IMFs is the “coordinator” for this course.)

The classroom portion is being held at Consolidated Underwriters at their 206 South Wilson Avenue, Dunn, NC, 28334 location. Please park in the rear of the building. http://goo.gl/maps/QR6KG

Range training and Qualification is to be at H2O Fowl Farms. This is an outdoor range. Dress appropriately and bring water. Early weather forecasts predict VERY COLD and a chance of precipitation.

H2O’s website: http://h2ofowlfarmsnc.com/